Ifolokhwe ukuze ungatyi ngesandla sakho. Emva kwantoni kwiindawo zokuvota Abaphuhlisi beDebian baxelele wonke umntu ukuba ayeke ukungcolisa nge-systemd kunye nokudibanisa (ngaphandle kweentloko ezinqamlekileyo), abanye abasindileyo ekusenokwenzeka ukuba bebengazukuyeka ukungcolisa bebelungiselela. into eyayiculwa ekuqaleni, kodwa yayisele iyinyani. Namhlanje loo mbono inegama: UDevuan.
I-Devuan (i-VUA embindini ivela kwi-Veteran Unix Admins) into yokuqala oza kuzama ukuyenza kukudibanisa ukuthengiselana okuthambileyo ukusuka kwi-Debian Wheezy ukuya kwinto eya kuba yinguqulo enye ye-Devuan. Kuba sele benolungelelwaniso lwabo (iphakheji yakho yokuqala), kwaye emva koko kuya kuza i-BTS yakho, inkqubo eqhubekayo yokudibanisa (ukusuka kwi-github ukuya kumakhi we-jenkins kwaye ukusuka apho ukuya kwi-repos yakho). Okwangoku, bacela uncedo zombini yimali ngokunjalo nabasebenzi (abaphuhlisi).
Kukwafanelekile ukuqaqambisa abantu abanomdla njengoko bebenikela ingxelo mncube. Kodwa ngokukodwa, lowo waqala yonke ingcamango yefolokhwe ayikho enye ngaphandle kwegcisa le-hacker Jaromil (eyaziwa ngendawo yayo yeprojekthi dyne.org, i-100% ye-distro yasimahla idane:bolic kunye iqokobhe forkbomb njengomsebenzi wobugcisa). Kukho amarhe okuba uKeith Packard (osuka kwi-Intel kunye nelungu leKomiti yezoBugcisa) kunye noClement Lefebvre (osuka kwi-Linux Mint) naye uya kuba nomdla.
Okwangoku akukho nto yimbi idaliweyo, akwaziwa ukuba yeyiphi i-init abaza kuyisebenzisa ngokungagqibekanga (kwezininzi ezikhoyo ongakhetha kuzo), ukuba iyakuba yi-100% simahla (iya kuba sengqiqweni kuluvo lwam), kodwa nabani na ofuna Yiba nomdla, ekupheleni kwesiza ngabafowunelwa (uluhlu lwe-imeyile, i-IRC, njl.)
https://devuan.org/
Ewe, kwiFirefox yam, le dilesi
https://devuan.org/donate.html
Kubonakala njengephepha lobuqhophololo (phishing). Into apha ivumba KAKHULU (kwaye akukho ... Andicebisi ukuba abantu base-debianfork.org bafuna ukwenza ubuqhetseba, kodwa kunoko kubonakala ngathi "poetteringesque" sabotage). 🙁
KwiFirefox ibonakala "njengesiza sobuqhophololo esirhanelwayo"? Lumka kuba lowo ulawula uludwe lwenkohliso nguGoogle, kwiinketho onokuthi uyilungise. Eyona nto ilungileyo kukuthetha nabaphuhlisi kuqala, bane-IRC kunye ne-imeyile ekweli phepha ukuqhagamshelana nawe.
Abakaqalisi kwa ngoku sele becela imali...
Molo Mario!
Loluphi uhlobo lwefirefox onalo?
Ndinenguqulo 31.2 kwaye yakutshanje (34).
Ndijonge iphepha kwaye alindithumeli naziphi na iimpazamo zePhishing.
Nanini na xa iphepha lewebhu lingagqitywanga ufumana olo phawu. Yibeke nje ngaphandle kwaye yiloo nto. Kwenzeka into efanayo kum ngephepha le-OpenMandriva ngelo xesha.
Ewe, kungenxa yokuba isatifikethi se-SSL sizisayine kwaye asihlawulwa kwiziko eligunyazisiweyo.
Kwaye ngoloyilo lwewebhu olugxothayo xDD
Ndiyathemba ukuba basebenzisa i-Systemd… ah… ok kulungile…
Kulihlazo ukuba iqela le-Debian liqhekeke, nangona ndingathandabuzi ukuba eyona distro yamagqala iya kuqhubeka nokuba namandla.Makhe sibone ukuba le folokhwe iluhlobo luni na lobuchule, kuba ukuba baya kutshintsha nje isibini Ukugcina yonke inkxaso kunye namava eDebian Gnu/Linux.
Ngoku ukuba bathatha ithuba lokwenza i-LXQT idesktop engagqibekanga kwaye kwinkqubo banike isandla sekati kwimbonakalo, ndisaya kucinga ngayo ngokuzolileyo.
Musa ukuphambana, iqela le-Debian alizange lahlulwe, abanye abaphuhlisi bayahamba kwaye baya kutshintshwa ngabanye (ukuba uBuntu ufuna inkqubo yokuqalisa into ethile kuya kufuneka yenziwe), abanye benza ifolokhwe, kulungile, ngokuqhelekileyo kwenzeka kule nto. Linux into (okanye yintoni linuxmint). I-Systemd ayiqinisekisi abantu abaninzi kwaye, ngethamsanqa, kwisoftware yasimahla iindlela zinokwahlulwa.Into enomdla kukuba kwiminyaka embalwa edlulileyo, ndandisebenzisa iGentoo, eyayisele ine-openrc endaweni, kwaye kukho impikiswano kunye ne-incipient systemd ( nalapho uPottering akazange akuphathe kakuhle ukugxekwa kolu luntu), kwaye akukho nto yenzekayo, ngoku lo mbandela uyinto emsulwa.
Phendula nge quote
Yifolokhwe yabantu abangafuni i-systemd, ukuba bangayitshintshi i-debian ngokugqithisileyo kwinto epholileyo nepholileyo.
Hayi bomama, ukuba i-systemd yosulela yonke i-distros ndiya kwi-FreeBSD.
Ah
Sele ndisebenzisa iFreeBSD
:3
Eyona nto ilungileyo kukwenza okwenzileyo... linda umzuzwana uManjaro akhulule i-net inst, i-openbox kunye ne-Xfce ene-OpenRc. Lisekho ithemba...
Ewe, yima, siyaqalisa!
http://www.bsdunix.ml
Izimvo ezilungileyo: D.
"Boohoohoo, singamagqala e-Unix kwaye asisebenzisi laa nkqubo intsha inamagqabantshintshi amaninzi"
Andikhathali nge-systemd, endaweni yoko ndiyayibulela, inkqubo ikhawuleza kakhulu oko ndenze utshintsho.
Ukuba iqala kuwe ...
Iqala kwisigidi, i-systemd ayiyonkunkuma, inendlela yayo, ewe, kodwa i-Red Hat Inc. ayibheji kwitekhnoloji yenkunkuma, ndililungu loluntu ngokugqithisileyo kodwa inzondo ye-systemd iyasidla, ngaphantsi. incoko kunye neekhowudi ezininzi.
Inkqubo?Inantoni na le nkqubo inento yokwenza nesiqalo kwisantya sayo?Akunakuba ukuba isiqalo siyakhawuleza?Ok,usuke waphulukana nembeko yam,ucinga ukuba isiqalo senza inkqubo ngokukhawuleza,njengabo bathi batsho njalo. izihlangu ezingcono zibenza babaleke ngokukhawuleza...
Ngaba bekungayi kuba ngcono ukwenza iso kunye nokhetho lofakelo? Oko kukuthi, umsebenzisi ukhetha into ayifunayo systemd okanye openRc
Kuya kuba kuhle ukukhetha i-systemd okanye i-OpenRC okanye into elula, kodwa ayingombono we-RH. Kungcono ukuba wonke umntu asebenzise into enye, le ayenzayo.
Bayithethile kakuhle kwixesha elidlulileyo: i-Linux kunye nayo yonke into ejikelezayo ifana nomhlaza ozidlayo
Ngaba kufuneka uyithiye i-gnu/linux ukuze uthande "iifestile-aero" zakho?
ps: enkosi ngokugxeka inkqubo esiyisebenzisayo apha, usondele kuthi.
Ewe, kutheni kufuneka uthande iWindows ukuze uthiye iLinux? Ngapha koko, akazange athi uyamcaphukela.
Kuba kubonakala ngathi usebenzisa iiWindows sele umbiza ngezinto ezininzi ongazazi nokuba ziyinyani na. Ngewayethethe amazwi akhe kuba ecinga ukuba iyantlukwano engaka kunye nenzondelelo yempambano ngumhlaza.
Musa ukuyondla itroli
Kubi ukuyithetha kodwa unyanisile, wena kunye ne-aero yakho. I-Microsoft imanyene ngakumbi kwaye ngaphandle kwe-Vista kunye ne-Windows 8, abenzi izigqibo ezinjalo ngokukhawuleza kwaye ukuba bayazenza bazilungise (iifestile 7 kwaye ngoku ziyi-10). KwiWindows awuzange ube nokulawula nantoni na ukuze ungaphulukani nento ongenayo kwaye ngokubanzi ezi zinto azenzeki, enyanisweni, ziyenzeka ngenye indlela, wonke umntu wathi, iWindows Phone ayiphumelelanga kwaye yajika. ukuba isebenza kakuhle kakhulu kwaye iyasebenza.
Xa ifolokhwe ye-libreoffice yaphuma, uninzi lwabaphuhlisi be-openoffice bayishiya le projekthi. Ke ngoko, i-libreoffice, ukusuka kumzuzu 0, yayinomgangatho.
Le folokhwe, kude kube ngoku ingeyonto ngaphandle kwewebhusayithi, ayinazo iindawo zokugcina kunye nesoftware yefolokhwe, okanye umfanekiso ofakekayo. Lo nto ukuba sele becela imali.
I-Debian imalunga nama-37500 eepakethe zesoftware yasimahla, kwaye andazi ukuba zingaphi na ezingasimahla kunye nezinegalelo, kwaye kuthathelwa ingqalelo ukuba kuJessie uninzi lweenkqubo zilungelelaniselwe inkqubo. Sithetha ngokuqala ku 0 ulungise 37500 kwi sysvinit, umsebenzi ofuna abantu abaninzi abanolwazi oluninzi.
Andazi nyani ukuba aba bakwiprojekthi yale folokhwe ngabantu abaziwayo na, ndithetha umntu onegama, ovuselela ukuzithemba okuncinci.
Umgangatho wesoftware yeDebian awunakuphikiswa kodwa eso sisiphumo sento yokuba iDebian ayiyondlela yokusebenza kuphela, inemigangatho kunye nesakhiwo sefilosofi nezopolitiko, ulawulo olungqongqo lwekhwalithi, olunike ukuhambelana kuyo yonke le minyaka engama-20. iminyaka.
Ekugqibeleni, loo projekthi iya kuba yifolokhwe yeDebian, imini eneendawo zokugcina, i-installer kunye nenqanaba elifanayo lomgangatho njengeDebian. kodwa kuyo nayiphi na imeko yiprojekthi ye-derivative ye-Debian okanye i-derivative ye-derivative, apho kukho ngaphezu kwe-1000, phakathi kwabo Ubuntu, i-Nint, i-Trisquel, i-Knoopix, i-distros yezemfundo, i-Huayra, njl, njl, njl.
Ukusuka kwinto endiyibonayo kwizimvo, uphosa amakhonkco okufunda.
Xa amarhe esiba yinyaniso siya kuthetha.
....kunamarhe okuba uthile-no-ngoka-Intel blabla, kwaye lowo-no-ngokuthi usuka andazi ukuba iphi blabla….. kuqala kufuneka bakhulule ifolokhwe enovimba we-37000 yeepakethe ezisemgangathweni ezigqithiselwe kwi-sysvinit kwaye. uze ucele imali 😉
Ndiyacacisa ukuba andiboni nto imbi malunga nokwenza ifolokhwe yeDebian, kodwa ukuze ibe yinto enye, kufuneka ifane neDebian kwaye ingabi yintlekisa okanye ithulule igalari. Kodwa yithi ngokusekwe kwi-debian kwaye yiyo loo nto
Ngokupheleleyo ... akazi ukuba ngoobani uJaromil okanye abahlobo bakhe, kwaye akamkhangeli kugoogle ... kwaye bayaqala ... kodwa hey, nanko. Ngendlela, kulabo abangaziyo, uJaromil, ngaphezu kokuba ne-distro emva kwakhe, isofthiwe ye-bitcoin kunye negalelo kwi-frei0r-plugins, ngumfana ozinikele kwinto ayenzayo. Yena ngokwakhe wabhala i-imeyile namhlanje kwisidenge owathi akakwazi ukucela iminikelo ngaphandle kokubiza amagama kwaye wamxelela ngokucacileyo ukuba akakwenzi kuba sele ehlaselwe ngendlela ecekisekayo kwi-reddit (ndiyazi) kwaye oko. ulahlekelwe yimisebenzi kwixesha elidlulileyo, wayenexesha elibi, kodwa wayesoloko egcina yonke into ihamba, dyne.org nangona wayengenamsebenzi, namhlanje omnye umhlobo waseNtaliyane wayesenza izinto kwaye wathi ufuna ukugqiba ezinye izinto ngokukhawuleza kuba wayenengxaki yempilo kwaye nangona kunjalo ndandihleli kwiPC ndisenza izinto. UBardo, umfana waseArch, kubonakala ngathi baziwa eItali (uBard waseTaliyane) wajoyina iqela, ngoko ke into ethethwa ngulo mfo ungasentla ... iidiocy epheleleyo, kukholelwa ukuba bangabantwana abathile benza i-remix Fedora.
Ngaba akwanelanga ukusebenzisa iiparquets zangaphambili? kwaye uhlaziye ukusuka apho.
Kwakhona, ayizizo zonke ezi phakheji zivelisa ukuxhomekeka kwenkqubo.
Hayi, akufani kuba kufuneka ngotyando bavuleke kwaye bacoceke, amagama kaJaromil, iipakethe ezinokuxhomekeka kwe-systemdlib0, zininzi.
Kuthetha ukuthini oku kukuba awunyanzelekanga ukuba utshintshe iipakethe, kucingelwa ukuba xa usenza i-apt-fumana, iphakheji ifakwe kunye nokuxhomekeka okuhambelanayo kwindlela yakho. Iphakheji ngokwayo ayisiyiyo ebandakanya ezo zixhomekeke.
Kwakhona, ndifumanisa ukuba iinkqubo zisebenza gabalala nokuba yeyiphi na inkqubo yokuqalisa onayo.
Ngaphandle kokuba zifuna i-systemd ifakwe ukuze isebenze, ke iinkqubo kufuneka zisebenze kakuhle, kwaye oko kwenzekile ngeGnome ukuza kuthi ga ngoku.
Yintsomi malunga nokuziqhelanisa ne-systemd. Kulula ukuyikhupha (http://without-systemd.org/wiki/index.php/How_to_remove_systemd_from_a_Debian_jessie/sid_installation). Kwi-Debian, iipakethe ze-37500 zinokuhambelana ne-sysv, kwaye i-systemd-shim ikhona ixesha elide - okufanayo kuya ku-Ubuntu. Ayifani ne-fedora ecocekileyo ye-systemd kwaye awukwazi ukubiza imiyalelo ye-sysv endala.
Ngaphandle kweGnome, i-systemd iphantse yasisinyanzelo kwaye ekuphela kwe-distro eyilobileyo yiFuntoo.
Unyanisile, kodwa ku-anti-systemd ongafuniyo iphakheji ye-systemd kwindlela yakhe, i-debian 8 iyamnyanzela ukuba abe ne-libsystemd0 package. Isisombululo esadalwa kwiDebian yi-systemd-shim impahla ekuvumela ukuba ubene-sysvinit-core kwaye ukwazi ukuhlohla ii-desktops ezinjenge kde, gnome, lxde, mate, njl. Ukunqanda ukwaziswa kwe-systemd-sysv
Kanye kanye, ngaba ukho umntu omkhumbulayo lo mfo uTanglu, owaphuma ngentetha emangalisayo esithi uzovala isithuba esingakwaziyo ukusivala uVavanyo?
Nantsi unayo
http://tanglu.org/download/
Ngoku bane-beta yesi-2 yenguqulo yesi-2
Ndonwabile kakhulu ukuba esi sithuba senziwe kwaye kuyandikhathaza kakhulu ukubona izimvo ezinje nge "systemd iqala ngokukhawuleza" xa umcimbi ungahambelani nesantya. Ngethemba, abantu abafanayo abathi bangaze balawule kwaye balungise iidaemon kumncedisi, kuba APHO ndifuna ukubabona bethanda inkqubo. Okwenzekayo kukuba neLinux ifuna ukunika ukomelela ngakumbi kwi-desktop yeLinux kodwa nge-systemd baye bade kakhulu, iyahlasela kwaye iyangenelela, ayikuvumeli ukuba ukhubaze izinto ezifana nejenali kwaye ithatha indawo yeeprojekthi ezivavanywe iminyaka emininzi. njenge rsyslog, kwaye ndikumema ukuba ubone Kwiwebhusayithi ye-gentoo kukho uthelekiso phakathi kwe-systemd, i-openrc, i-sysvinit kunye ne-upstart ukuze ukwazi ukubona amawaka emigca yekhowudi ye-UNdocumented kwi-systemd edlula ezinye iinkqubo zokuqalisa ngamawaka. Kucacile ukuba yi-android yexesha elizayo, i-systemd ngaphandle kwe-kernel iphantse ibe yi-OS epheleleyo njenge-android, kukuba akukho mntu usebenzisa i-android okanye i-chromeOS kwiiseva.
PS: Ndiqinisekisa iDiaze, ilayisenisi yi gplv3+ ngoko izakuba simahla kwaye umphuhlisi osuka kwidebian, gentoo kunye ne kde ibandakanyiwe.
Yintoni ilayisenisi ye-gplv3+? iipakethe abazenzayo okanye yonke i-distro
@synflag: Andiphawuli ngokungazi, ndiyazi ukuba iskripthi se-init asifani ne-systemd .service, kwaye andiziboni njengomkhuseli oqinileyo kodwa ndiyacaphukela "ihlabathi. iyaphela, masibaleke siye kwigumbi elingaphantsi komhlaba ukuze sizikhusele kwisimo sengqondo se-systemd.", kwaye ayisosiphelo sefilosofi ye-UNIX kwi-GNU/Linux distros njengoko beyipeyinta.
Ayikuko ukuba ndikhetha i-systemd kwabanye, kubomi bokwenyani andikhathali nokuba yintoni engaphantsi logama nje isebenza kakuhle, kodwa ndiyathemba incasa ye-Red Hat, Debian, Arch kunye nabanye abasebenzisi. Ngokombono wam, ukwenza ifolokhwe yeDebian nje ngenxa ye-init kukuchitha izixhobo, kunokuthiwa i-systemd sele iyiphumelele imfazwe, abo baseleyo ngabavukeli esiqithini.
Ewe, baninzi abantu abangakholelwayo ukuba yinkcitho yobutyebi.
Abo bangonelisekanga nge-systemd, uninzi lwabo ngabasebenzisi abaphambili kunye neesysadmins.Ekulapho imakethi yeLinux yomelele ngokwenene. Kwidesktop ayifiki kwi-2%.
Ngaba kufanelekile ukucinga malunga nokugcina ikota yeeseva, akunjalo?
Baseyincinci ENGASEBENZAYO ekuphuhlisweni kwesoftware yasimahla, bazibiza ngabasebenzisi abaphambili (indawo yokuqala yefolokhwe yeDebian yayihlekisa kakhulu, isimbo se-neckbeard 4channer).
Kucingelwa ukuba kungenxa yoko le nto isabelo semakethi yeLinux siqhubeka sikhula kwiiseva ngaphandle kwe-systemD kwaye unamanyathelo okuqala e-avant-garde afana ne-CoreOS esebenzisa izibonelelo ezinikezelayo.
Inyaniso yeyokuba unabantu abaninzi abangafuni kutshintsha, kwaye ikwangabantu abangxolayo njengamaxesha onke, abantu abakhalazayo kuba kulula ukukhalaza kunokufaka inkqubo nokuba negalelo. Bakhalaza ngeXorg, bakhalazela i KDE 4, kwaye iLinux yahlala isebenza. Ngokubanzi bagrogrisa ngokuya kwiBSD kwaye xa bebona ukuba akukho mntu ubakhumbulayo (kwaye abayazi indlela yokufaka iBSD ngokufanelekileyo) babuye nomsila phakathi kwemilenze yabo.
Andimthembi uHR. Ukusuka apho saqala kakubi, enye into endiyikhathaleleyo yinto engaphantsi kwe-OS yam ukuba iqale, ukusuka kwintambo ye-sata ukuya kwi-bootloader. Enyanisweni, ukuba injengoko beyipeyinta, i-systemd ayiyo-POSIX kwaye ayiyo-LSB, ngoko yintoni?… win… Ngenxa yoko, masiyeke ukungcolisa kunye nesihogo ngayo, masiyisebenzise Windows 10, ebonakala ngathi yiba mkhulu!
Ke wenza ntoni usebenzisa i-kernel esele iphuhliswe kakhulu ngenxa yegalelo labantu kwi-Red Hat?
Hmm, ngokobuqu ndisebenzisa i-GNU/Linux kuba isimahla, ukungaziva ngathi ndisebenzisa into engcono kuneWindows, enyanisweni ndisebenzise iLinux ixesha elide kwaye kwimiba emininzi ayikho ngaphezulu kweWindows okanye i-OSX (ngelixa ikwi- ezinye ezininzi zinjalo) , kodwa simahla kwaye yeyona nto ibalulekileyo.
Kuyinto ehlekisayo ngokuphindwe kabini ukuthi "Andiyithembi i-RedHat" kuba ngaphandle kwamathandabuzo i-Linux ayiyi kuba apho ikhoyo ngaphandle kwenkxaso yeenkampani ezifana ne-Red Hat, leyo ngendlela ebandakanyekayo ekuphuhliseni i-kernel phakathi kwezinye izinto. ukusukela ekuqaleni.
Yiba ne-xfce ngokungagqibekanga 😉
http://k30.kn3.net/2/1/A/4/F/A/3BD.jpg
Andazi…
Le logo iya kuba igqibelele...
Ndiyayithanda, ndiza kukucebisa yona.
@tenshinhan
Ngaba awusebenzi? UDevuan ngumzekelo wokuba ewe, kwaye ndiyakuxelela ukuba ngaphaya kweDevuan bahlala befaka isandla, awubaboni.
@daryo
Ekugqibeleni umntu oqondayo!
Hayi njengoLennart, osebenzisa iFedora njengomncedisi... ngelishwa:
0pinter.de
Apache/2.4.10 (Fedora) OpenSSL/1.0.1e-fips mod_fcgid/2.3.9 PHP/5.5.16
Ucinga ukuba umntu osebenzisa i-Fedora 20 njengomncedisi unokucinga ngento engaphezulu kwe-desktop?Bonke baya kugqiba ukusebenzisa uhlobo lweWindows kodwa nge-Linux kernel, nje ngokungaqondakaliyo, ngoko ke inkululeko abayifunayo Ngaba iya kuba yiyo yonke into yokubini?Ngabo bamaziyo u-C kuphela abaya kuba nako ukuqonda into ethile. Ke ayisiyonkululeko ye-sysadmin kuphela esemngciphekweni apha, kodwa naleyo yabasebenzisi abafuna ubuncinane ukukwazi ukufunda i-TXT okanye ukwazi ukuba i-daemon iqala njani ngokufunda iskripthi sabo se-bash.
Ukusebenzisa i-Fedora kufana nokusebenzisa i-Red Hat engazinzanga. Uyakwazi ukuyenza kuba ungumphuhlisi, hayi i-sysadmin njengawe owoyika uC.
>>> Ucinga njani ukuba umfana osebenzisa iFedora 20 njengomncedisi unokucinga nantoni na ngaphezu kwedesktop?
Nceda, masihlale sinenjongo, ukuba uyijonga ngembono iFedora 20 ayiyoArch okanye iGentoo, eneneni ligama lentengiso (ngaloo ndlela itsala abavavanyi basimahla kunokuba ibiyi "RHEL Testing") ngesiseko sokhupho olulandelayo. "I-Red Hat Enterprise Linux", njengoko mna ndisebenzisa uvavanyo lwe-Debian njengomncedisi weprojekthi eya kukhutshwa xa uvavanyo luzinzile, kwaye nangona kunjalo uLennart yinjineli ye-Red Hat, unokukwazi ukuyisebenzisa kuyo nantoni na, uhlawulwe kwaye ukhuthazwe ukuba usebenzise i-Fedora ukwenza izinto kwaye ufumane iibugs.
Ekugqibeleni, umntu ngamnye ucamngca ngemiqamelo yakhe malunga nokuba aqhubeke neDebian okanye atshintshele kwiDevuan kwaye achaze izizathu kubalawuli benkampani: "... Ndiligqala le-Unix admin..." o_O
Ukuba awuboni nto iphosakeleyo ngokusebenzisa iFedora njengomncedisi, akukho nto ingako yokuxoxa. Masisebenzise iWindows 7 kunye ne-IIS, kutheni kungenjalo?
Andiboni nto ingalunganga xa injineli ivavanya isoftware entsha yenkampani yakhe kwibhlog yakhe, usishiyile isihloko se-systemd.
U-Lennart kunye neqela azisebenzi kuyo nantoni na abayifunayo, abagqibi ngendlela yokugqibela ye-systemd, bangabasebenzi be-Red Hat, kunye nemveliso yabo ye-Flegship i-RHEL yeyeeseva. Ndithetha isiTshayina?
Andikasifundi isizathu sokuqala esinyanzelisayo sokuba kutheni i-systemd "nguSathana omtsha." Omnye uthi iilog azikho kwisicatshulwa esicacileyo, kwaye iilog ezikumbhalo ongenanto zilungile kuba ungazihluza... bah, ngokufanayo nemveliso yawo nawuphi na umyalelo, kwaye umyalelo yiloo nto isetyenziswa yi-systemd ukufunda i-binary. iinkuni. Umntu ongenakukwazi ukuguqula izikripthi zokuqalisa ngenxa yokuba azibhalwanga kwi-shell shell ... bah, njengokuba umntu uchitha ubomi bakhe eguqula izikripthi zokuqalisa (ngaphandle koko, kwifayile kwifomathi ye-ini kucace ngakumbi) ... kwaye blah blah blah , ibhola iyaluma kwaye isasazeka. Ndikholise! Ndisalinde bandiqinisekise. Kwaye ungandiniki into yefilosofi ye-Unix: i-Unix iphantse yafa, iyafa, i-Linux iyibulele kancinci. Dlula kuyo! Kukho iinkqubo ngoku zingamarhamncwa amakhulu, angabonakali kwaye zikhona, akukho mntu uzigxekayo. Zonke ezi zinja azikho nto ngaphandle kokubonakaliswa kokumelana nokutshintsha, abantu abakwindawo yabo yokuthuthuzela kwaye baxhathise nayiphi na i-paradigm shift. Bade bawele kwintlekisa malunga nokuba ikhowudi ayibhalwanga. Ndiyazibuza ukuba bangaphi kubo abafunde ikhowudi yesicelo sasimahla, kunye nesixa esikhulu sekhowudi yasimahla engabhalwanga ekhoyo! Ukufumana ikhowudi ebhaliweyo yinto ekhethekileyo, kungekhona umthetho. Kwaye kuthekani ukuba abanye bavavanywa kakhulu kwaye le nto intsha. WTF! Masingacwangcisi nantoni na entsha, yintoni engalunganga, kuba siza kwazisa iibugs kunye nayo yonke loo khowudi yakudala esinayo kunye nazo zonke ezo zindala, ezingasebenziyo kunye ne-algorithms ephelelwe lixesha ivavanywa kakhulu, kutheni ke umngcipheko. (!!)
Ngokungathi umntu kufuneka akuqinisekise ngantoni? Enkosi kakhulu ngokubulala irhanisi elazalela amaqanda egolide. Yeyiphi imakethi iRedHat ifumana iintaba zemali kuyo? Loluphi uhlobo lwekhompyuter apho i-GNU/Linux ine-95% ephambili? Amaqonga asimahla kunye nobunini * be-NIX balawula ukuza kuthi ga ngoku (kwaye abanye baqhayisa ngezixhobo zabo ze-aluminium ezibizayo eziqinisekisiweyo ze-Unix). Ayikho enye indlela (noooseva beWindows bane-Unix console). Enkosi uStallman ukhathale kumashumi eminyaka eyadlulayo ukuba enze i-Unix yakhe ihambelane.
Ndithi ndiqinisekise ukuba i-systemd imbi kuba nokuba ndijonge kangakanani kuyo yonke indawo ndiyibona kuphela ukuba yahlukile; kuba ndibona zonke izizathu abazinikelayo zibuthathaka, zizingxengxezo nje zokuhlala kumhlaba owaziwayo. Ngakolunye uhlangothi, ndibona izibonelelo: Ndiyabona indlela inkqubo ephakamisa ngayo ngokukhawuleza, andiyiboni ukungazinzi abathetha ngako kwi-distros esele isebenzisa i-systemd, ndibona ukusetyenziswa kwe-CoreOS enika i-systemd ukuphakamisa izitya nge. fleet (kulula kangakanani ukuqwalasela i-systemd ukwenza isikhongozeli sedocker esinenkonzo ebulela kwiifayile zoqwalaselo kwifomati ye-ini). Ke ndifuna umntu andixelele into embi kakhulu malunga ne-systemd ukuze ndikwazi ukuthi: yinyani, yinto *yokwenyani* engalunganga, hayi nje isingxengxezo esinyanzelisiweyo sokuba umntu akhalaze kuba ebanyanzela ukuba basebenze ngokwahlukileyo kancinci. .
Ukuba ufuna idatha yobugcisa ngakumbi
http://www.linuxito.com/gnu-linux/nivel-alto/431-por-que-systemd-es-una-mierda
Ezo aziyodatha yobugcisa, ucalucalulo lwezopolitiko, iimpendulo ezininzi kwezo zityholo malunga nenkqubo ziphendulwa nguLennart ngokwakhe. http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/the-biggest-myths.html
http://0pointer.net/blog/projects/the-biggest-myths.html
Kwaye nantsi enye eyiphikisayo:
http://www.phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?105735-New-Group-Calls-For-Boycotting-Systemd&p=437642#post437642
I-FUD ecocekileyo. Amabango amaninzi asekelwe kwiintelekelelo zento enokwenzeka. Ifomathi yelog ayifihlakalanga njengoko beyipeyinta, kwaye ukuba yonakele ngenxa yokusilela kwamandla okanye into efanayo (njengoko kunokwenzeka kwiilogi ze-syslog) i-journalctl ineendlela zokuyibuyisela kwaye nokuba, kwimeko embi kakhulu, Iyakwazi. ifundwe kunye nezinye izixhobo zokufunda iifayile ngokucoca okuncinci nge-grep kunye ne-sed. Ezo zichasene nentanda-bulumko ye-Unix, ingcebiso yam kukuba, ukuba uyi-purist, faka i-Unix kwaye yiloo nto, ubuyela kwii-'70s. Ukuba uyi Unix purist mhlawumbi awukuthandi ukulayisha okuguquguqukayo kweemodyuli ze kernel okanye ubhaqo oluzenzekelayo lwehardware nge udev nokuba. Phantse onke amanqaku ajikeleza ukuhambelana ne-Unix, ekufuneka ihambelane nayo nayiphi na i-libc yokuphunyezwa ekhoyo, njl. Kutheni kungekho mntu wakhalaza, umzekelo, ukuba i-udev yi-Linux kuphela? Nge-systemd kwakuyimfuneko ukuqulunqa uluhlu lwayo yonke into eyayingalunganga ngayo, ngoko ke baxubha iingqondo zabo bekhangela yonke into enokuthi ithathe amanqaku, kwaye ngaloo ndlela bakhupha ikhadi lokungahambelani, xa kukho iitoni zezinto kwi-GNU / Linux. ziLinux kuphela.
😛 uburharha obuncinci
http://www.boycottlinux.org/
Ndiyavumelana nawe. Kwakhona, njengoko ndiyiqonda, ivoti yathathwa kwaye isiphakamiso seSystemd saphumelela, ngoko ke abo benza ifolokhwe baphazamisekile ngenxa yokuba isiphakamiso sabo asiphumelelanga. Ngaphantsi kwaloo mgaqo kuya kubakho ifolokhwe yentloko nganye. Umntu omnye distro! Sihamba ngolu hlobo.
Kubalawuli benkqubo nantsi indibaniselwano yamanqaku kwi-systemd esuka kwibhlog ye-lennart http://0pointer.net/blog/archives.html kubalawuli http://goo.gl/Vgt7WF kwifomathi ye-epub
Mabasebenzise initng okanye GNU dmd.
Kwimeko yam ndiyekile ukusebenzisa iDebian kwiminyaka embalwa edlulileyo.
Ayisiyonto echaphazela iDebian kuphela. Ichaphazela kanye "intliziyo" yeLinux. Asithethi malunga nokuhanjiswa kwe "juanito".
Isenokubonakala ingumnqa, kodwa ukungafuni kwabaninzi ukutshintsha kwihlabathi apho ukuziqhelanisa kubalulekile kuye kwakhokelela kwiimeko ezinje rhoqo emva kweminyaka emi-3 okanye emi-4. Ndisebenzisa i-systemd ixesha elingaphezu konyaka kwaye ngokunyaniseka, ingqondo yam ayikaboli. Ndikwalawula oomatshini abane-sysVinit kwaye ndiyayithanda. Bahluke ngokulula ngokomelela kunye nobuthathaka.Ingaba i-GNU/Linux ayisekelwanga kuloo nto?
Kwiminyaka embalwa edlulileyo, “umtyholi ebengafunwa mntu kuba i-ALSA ibanike oko bebekufuna” kwenzeka ngepulseaudio. Ukuba sijonga ngasemva, bekukho nezikhalazo malunga ne-debian installer eyenziwe kwi-Hot Potato. Ewe, bade bagibisela amatye kwi-NGINX okanye kutshanje kwi-btrfs.
Kwaye ungandixelela ntoni malunga nabo bantu baphambeneyo abadale iprosesa ephantsi kwaye bayifake kwi-TV encinci ukuyithengisa kubantu abaqhelekileyo ... hawu, abantu abaphambeneyo, kutheni abantu abaqhelekileyo bafuna ikhompyutha? (ukuphela kwesigqebelo)
Umahluko kuphela kukuba ezi ngxoxo zazihlala ekoneni yebhari kunye nabafana aba-4 abayaziyo into abathetha ngayo kuba babeyiqhuba imini yonke. Nabani na ongazange ayithande akazange ayinxibe okanye aqokelele iqela labantu ukuba bayile ezinye iindlela.Le yindlela esebenze ngayo iminyaka kwaye akuzange kubekho umdlalo onje, kodwa kunokubakho ezinye kunye nokwahlukana okukhokeleyo. ukuqhubela phambili.
Kodwa ngoku ukuba uluntu lukwazi ukufikelela ngakumbi kwezi ngxoxo, amacala kunye nokulwa okungenangqondo kwenziwa xa kufuneka kubekho ukhuphiswano kunye nokudala ukuphucula into ekhoyo kwaye ibonise ukuba enye iphosakele. Bakhulisa ibhola yekhephu engenantsingiselo endaweni yokudala kunye nokuyila ezinye iindlela.
Siye sashiya ikona emnyama yebha ... kodwa oko ndikubonayo, ngenxa yobubi.
Ewe, ndoda, ndiyavuma ukuba abantu abaninzi banikela uluvo lwabo bengazi, bedala iingxoxo ezingenangqondo.
kwaye akukho nto ingalunganga nge-systemd ukuba nje kukho iindlela ezizezinye kwaye ayinyanzeliswanga kumntu wonke. Kwaye kukho iindlela ezilungileyo kakhulu ezifana ne-runit openrc njl.
Nam andiqondi ukuba kutheni kukho ingxaki engaka xa besenza ifolokhwe.ukuba kukho imifit eyi 4 yokutshintsha njengoko besitsho okanye iphelele ekubeni yi-distribution ne-derivatives kunye nenkxaso evela kuluntu, ixesha liya kuxela, kodwa abanye cinga ukuba ukuba iLinux ayibi luhlobo lweMicrosoft apho kukho umanyano olupheleleyo luya kuba lilize.
Yiloo nto ndiyithethayo. Kule ngxaki babini kuphela abachaphazelekayo kwaye akukho mntu ufanele akhubeke, ndithetha oku kumava am obuqu xa ndisebenzisana nabalawuli benkqubo ezahlukeneyo.
Okokuqala, ngabo abo umaleko wabo womsebenzi ungenelela ngokuthe ngqo kunye nokusebenza kwe-systemd kunye ne-init eyahlukileyo. Ukuba ungomnye wabo bakwesi sikhundla, uya kuba nolwazi olwaneleyo lokuziqhelanisa ne-systemd, uyilungelelanise kwiimfuno zakho okanye ufuduke uye kolunye unikezelo okanye uhlaziye iipakethe ezibalulekileyo ngokwakho kwiinguqulelo ezingagcinwanga.
Abo bangayenziyo "intuthuzelo yezantsi emqolombeni."
Ukuba ukweli qela, awukhathali ngedebian, arch, fedora okanye nantoni na. Uyakha into oyifunayo ngokusekelwe kwimfuno yakho ngaphaya koko ukunikezelwa kokuhanjiswa okanye ukuba uzixhobisa ngomonde, yenza iqela elisebenzayo ukwenza into entsha kwaye xa uneziphumo zipapashe kuluntu. Apha ingxoxo ihlala ixhasa ukuphucula oko ukholelwa ukuba yeyona nto isebenzayo, hayi ukugxeka abanye.
Kwelinye icala zezo zingangeneleli kwaphela kwimisebenzi yazo yemihla ngemihla kwaye ziya kwenza umsebenzi ofanayo nge-openRC, initV okanye systemd. Ezi zizinto ezibhenela kwii-clichés eziqhelekileyo.
Eli qela aligqithi ngaphaya "kokusasazwa" kwaye abafane bathathe inkqubo, bayiguqule kwaye bayihlanganise kwiimfuno zabo. Abakhi into abayidingayo kodwa bathatha esele yenziwe bacinge ukuba yeyabo. Ngokuchanekileyo eli qela lelo lidala amagama afana ne "systemd boycott" "sysGarbage" okanye ithiyori iyelenqe lolawulo olupheleleyo njengoko ndifundile mva nje.
Ewe, kukho iqela lokugqibela, elithi "Ndisefashonini" abafaka Ubuntu ukuze baqale phambi kwabahlobo babo kwaye bathi bangabasebenzisi beLinux kwaye bachitha imini yonke kunye neWindows. Ngelishwa eli qela liyi-tinder eyomileyo yolu hlobo lobuvuvu kwaye bathetha nje into enye abayifundayo ngaphandle kokuyetyisa kuqala. Andizukunixelela ngezi zinto kuba azibachaphazeli tu kwaye ngethamsanqa sonke siyayazi indlela yokuzohlula kakuhle.
Jorks, ndingabongeza elinye iqela kwaye yiyo esebenzisa i-Linux ngaphandle kweengcamango.Oku kuthetha ukuba nangona bengayiqondi into abayithethayo, bangena kwiingxoxo zobugcisa ezixhasa oko ngokutsho kwabo "inzuzo yesoftware yasimahla ngakumbi. "
ke kukho abo bacinga ukuba i-systemd "yihashe letrojan ukulawula isoftware yasimahla nge-redhat" kwaye abanye bacinga ukuba yeyona ndlela ilungileyo yokumisela i-linux kwaye isasazeke kwaye bonke abo bacinga ngokwahlukileyo kungenxa yokuba boyika utshintsho. .
Njengoko besenditshilo, ndifumana i-systemd inomdla (kwaye ineziphene) kodwa kufuneka siyeke ukubona izinto njengemfazwe engcwele.
Kwaye nilumke, andizigxeki ezi zikhundla (vula abo baneengxabano ezintle kakhulu) kodwa abo bakwenza ngaphandle kweengcamango bengazi ukuba bathetha ngantoni.
I-Debian, eyona ndawo yakudala ye-GNU/Linux distro, inikwe i-sytemd efuna ukulawula wonke umntu kunye nenkqubo yonke ye-Linux, ngaphandle kokukwazi ukuguqula okanye ukulungisa iibhugi enazo, lihlazo elikhulu ukuba yonke imizamo eyenziwe nguDebian. kude kube namhlanje - bahlala kwizandla zabucala njengeRet Hat's systemd, eyona nto imbi kakhulu ikhokelela kwizinto eziphuma kuzo ezixhomekeke kuyo.
Ilungile kwi-Devuan, ikhusela isoftware yasimahla kwaye umsebenzisi unokuguqula kwaye alungise njengoko befuna. Ndiyathemba ukuba iLinux Mint kunye nolunye unikezelo lulungelelanisiwe kwi-Devuan kwaye alunikezelwanga kwi-sytemd.
Ndivavanya inkqubo yeFreeBSD ngedesktop kwaye ihamba kakuhle kakhulu.
I-Debian iye yangcatsha imigaqo yayo kunye nefilosofi ye-Linux, yonke imizamo yayo iminyaka emininzi iye yaphela, inikezela i-Sytemd, i-Ret Hat yayo ilawula umgaqo-nkqubo othintela umphuhlisi okanye abasebenzisi abanokuguqula okanye ukulungisa iimpazamo kwinkqubo - ekhohlo ukulawula ngokupheleleyo. ye-systemD elawula iRet Hat. I-Consigo ikhokelela kwizinto ezininzi eziphuma kumgangatho kunye nolawulo olupheleleyo lwabasebenzisi bayo be-Windows.
I-Devuan, kukuchasana nolawulo lwe-monopolism (i-systemd) abafuna ukuqalisa indlela yabo yokulawula ngokupheleleyo, lixesha elifanelekileyo lokuba le distro iphinde ivele kwaye kunye ne-Linux Mint kunye nenye i-software ye-GNU/Linux abanokuyenza. nikeza isoftware yasimahla ngaphandle kwe sytemd, kwaye Gcina inkululeko kwaye ulungiselele incasa yabaphuhlisi beLinux okanye abasebenzisi.
Khange ndibenayo ingxaki yeDebian nge-systemd, bendinongquzulwano. Ngokombono wam, oku bekungalinganiswanga kakuhle kulwabiwo kwaye izinto ezininzi, ezingaphakathi kwi-Debian, zizise imeko kwindawo yokungabuyi. Naluphi na ungquzulwano lunokujongelwa phantsi ngokuthi “yingxaki.” Ngaba kwenzeke into efanayo nalapha? Andiqinisekanga. Umba awuzange "usombulule" kakhulu ingxaki (sibeka i-sysvinit okanye sibeka i-systemd) njengokufikelela kwisivumelwano sokusombulula impixano (into ebandakanya ngokungenakuthintelwa imvume evela kumaqela ahlukeneyo). Ngokuqinisekileyo, ivoti (i-GR edumileyo "iSigqibo Jikelele") kunye nesigqibo seKomiti yezoBugcisa (eyathi, ukongeza, yasombululwa buncinci), ayibonakali njengezixhobo ezifanelekileyo zokusombulula ingxabano yale milinganiso.
Kuyo yonke le nto, uluntu luye lwaxakwa kukunyuka kobutshaba kunye nesisombululo sokugqibela: ifolokhwe yeDebian. Ibhadi, ayizizo zonke iingxabano ezisonjululwa kakuhle.
Uninzi aluyi kunika into yokuba i-init iphethe i-Debian kunye nayo kwaye abaninzi baya kukhetha inkqubo, nangona kunjalo, inxalenye yoluntu ayivumelani nomlinganiselo konke konke. Iingxoxo ezisebenzayo nezingenakwenziwa ziye zaviwa zada zadinwa. Kuyo yonke le nkqubo kukho into ethile emoyeni wokudlala ngomlilo, de kwaba semva kwexesha.
Ngoku abo bangayifuniyo inkqubo ye-systemd banendawo yokusebenzela kwaye babonelele ngenye indlela kwizinto ezibaxhalabisayo, ngaba ibingayi kuba lixesha lokushiya abantu bodwa kwaye ungaphembeleli umsindo ngakumbi? Hlonipha ukungafani. Musa ukudibanisa "ukudibanisa" kunye "neyunifomu." Asinakuthanda ukuqhekeka, nangona kunjalo, umanyano lunokwenzeka kuphela ngokuvumelana okubanzi, kwaye i-systemd ayiboneleli ngayo.
Indlela izinto ezazihamba ngayo, iprojekthi yamabhongo ngaphandle kwe-systemd yayilahlekile kwihlabathi "le-deb". Ingxabano ayikwazanga ukusonjululwa, wamkele ifolokhwe.
Uninzi lwe-sysadmins luyithiyile i-GNOME 3 kunye ne-SystemD. Yiyo loo nto iDebian yababophelela kwaye ke ezinye iimeko-bume zedesktop zixhomekeke kwiSysVinit kwaye umcimbi usonjululwe. Ngaba besikhona isikhalazo kwiArch Linux malunga neSystemD? Hayi; KwiFedora? Kwinto ethile; Kwaye bekunjani kuBuntu? Akazange anikezele.
Inyaniso yileyo bambalwa kakhulu abantu abazii-sysadmins kwaye abanye abantu abaninzi abazi ukuba yintoni i-INIT kwaye uninzi lwabo luzinikele kuphela kumatye athethayo. Andiyiqondi le folokhwe ukuba i-Debian sele imise ukuxhomekeka kwe-uber ye-SystemD emva kwezambuku ezinkulu zezikhalazo ezivela kwi-sysadmins.
Ndiza kuyifaka ifolokhwe kuba andilithandi elo gama, uDevuan.
Iifolokhwe kumntu wonke !!!
I-WTF-Yintoni ifolokhwe ???!!!
Yamkelwe!!! ha ha
http://hackingthesystem4fun.blogspot.com.ar/2014/12/systemd-journald-centos-7-totally.html
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Ubhityile, akunyanzelekanga ukuba urhaxwe kwiglasi yamanzi. phumla kancinci nge-nati-systemd crusade
Ndiyazi "i-skinny", andisiso isiphukuphuku, andiyi kuyisebenzisa ekuhlaleni, kodwa kunokuba ndikude njengoko ndenza nge-rsyslog, kodwa ungabi "yisidenge" kangangokuba awuqondi ukuba i-daemon yokugawulwa kwemithi. uyilwe kakubi.
https://www.reddit.com/r/LinuxActionShow/comments/2nv4hp/ask_lennart_poettering_a_question/