Readers who come with us on DesdeLinux since its inception (and even those who have read me in my previous blogs) You have surely noticed that many of my articles were tips that were used to solve certain and certain problems with our favorite distribution, your Desktop Environment or a specific application.
Since I started with my previous blog, wrote for two reasons:
- To share the knowledge that he had gained from day to day.
- To leave a kind of Memo that would help me if I had a problem later.
Therefore, surely you have noticed that I have not published articles of this type for a while, which have almost always been related to my header distribution: Debian.
And is that as the title of this post says, I have a stable desktop environment and distribution and it has been a long time since I have had a problem that involves writing and explaining how to solve it, which brings me to the point where I get extremely bored.
For those who still do not know, I have been using Debian Testing with KDE 4.8 It's been a couple of months now and I must say that I can't be happier in the sense that I have no complaints to make. Everything works fine, sometimes in excess.
I am thinking of returning to Xfce, my desk of a lifetime, but why am I going to lie to you? KDE it caught me and doesn't want to let me go, I have everything I need: Great tools and apps, great performance, anyway.
But apparently I'm not the only one who feels comfortable with GNU / Linux. There are fewer and fewer articles in my RSS related to "solving problems" or "getting something started" in the various available distributions. Could it be that everyone GNU / Linux is it working smoothly? Well, in order not to generalize, I would not say "All" but "Most".
Anyway, I think the Linuxsphere She is somewhat calm and for some reason it will be ...
Same words with Slackware 14 + KDE 4.8.5, but when I used Slackware-current it was another story.
Greetings.
Hi, I never used -current and I'm curious about your experience, could you elaborate?
Well look on my blog, there are some notes from when I used current from 13.37 but I do not promise anything very deep on the subject.
http://ecoslackware.wordpress.com/
And elaborate what, sorry I did not understand?
regards
I know your blog, just now when I read your nick again I realized! Congratz, I liked it a lot, there is good slacker material and it shows that you know the distro 🙂
Regarding elaboration, I ate half the sentence xD
"[…] Could you write an article?"
Sorry!
Same situation, different feeling. One year already with the same duo (Arch + LXDE) and I don't even want to move from here. What bores me is thinking about going back to hopping distro.
I am like cats: once I find my little place I don't leave until they throw me out. xD
When Wheezy comes out you're going to have fun with what goes into testing ……………… ..ah, who am I going to kid. Now I learned to handle a bit of sid ……. What happens is that since I want to have a stable distro for work, I don't detach myself from Debian
Even in Arch things are calm, so I amused myself with updates while migrating to systemd ...
You have taken the words out of my mouth.
Is it the calm that the storm announces? Rather, I think that this moment of linuxe peace is due to the fact that the battle front is diversifying, especially in the so-called cloud-computing and everything related to telephony and new devices.
But hey, this year I think we will have qt5 with the kde5 and there is also a video out there with samples of the advances with wayland. I hope the implementation of wayland is not too late, before desktop PCs run out.
And give him "end the desktop PCs" Do they really buy that story? It even bothers me to explain why this is not going to happen.
Of course, desktop PCs are not going to be abducted or banned, but at least in Spain the sales figures for PCs and laptops go down every month while those of smartphones, smart TVs and tablets rise. And for obvious reasons. A laptop goes for 400 euros and a pc from 250 + the monitor. There are tablets from 70 euros that to navigate, open mail, Facebook and chat is worth plenty. The price of smart tv every day is more equal to that of a normal lcd television, why do you want to have a weapon in your room or carry a laptop that is expensive or weighs 2 kilos? The smartphones are financed or given to you by the telephone company. And this does not only happen in the "capitalist parisos". I was traveling through Iran two months ago and I never cease to be surprised to see all the young people with Chinese tablets and smartphones clones of Samsung Galaxy.
And it is obvious that at certain professional levels they will need PCs for a lifetime. I cannot imagine a recording studio mixing with a tablet or video editing or all the jobs that require processor power coupled with the keyboard, mouse and peripherals. Perhaps the word "disappear" is too drastic but of course the classic desktop pc will cease to be predominant in the vast majority of non-specialized users.
PC sales fall because everyone already has one, and they are going to ensure using them, because no one can replace a PC with a smartphone or tablet
A simple and exact reasoning. Well, they will never "exterminate" the desktop PC because there will always be at least one in the museum or in my home. XD
Exactly the same thing happened to me 🙂
So I'm not entirely wrong right? Is GNU / Linux getting too stable? Not by diooosss !! I go back to Windows then hahaha
If you want to spend hours (or days, or weeks ...) of fun I recommend Windows 8, it is wonderful in that sense. If I know, that I bought the Pro x64 license, hahaha. #ReturnMeMyMoney
Hmmmm fresh bugs right out of the oven for the headache of a wide range of developers and for all audiences. Maybe tomorrow it will happen to me hehe. They say that the most fun is the serious interference when launching an application in full screen with the new start menu.
Nah, that's for babies. The real fun is that built-in artificial intelligence that detects when you have hours of grueling work and encourages you to rest by throwing yourself a BSOD with a delicious clean and simple Modern UI design, and its error checking wizard that takes 3 hours to tell you everything it's gone to hell and you need to reset or reinstall the system. And that that happens to you not once, but twice, is so entertaining that you can almost hear the laughter of the lords of Microsoft sharing your joy.
I like the sarcasm of your comment, hehe. Interestingly, I've also been familiarizing myself with Windows 8 for a few days so as not to fossilize (and also be able to enjoy some recent games), and although I have not encountered BSOD-type errors, I am not bored fighting with the Metro interface, although frankly I prefer to have fun with others more productive things. By the way, there is an application called StartIsBack that adds the start menu again and optionally allows disabling the hot-corners and the charms bar, thanks to which Windows behaves in a relatively similar way to the previous version. I don't know how Windows 8 will work on an ARM tablet, but at least in its version for PC, this is a good example of how not to make a user interface; displays are an inconsistent hybrid mix, and things that were once easily done are now practically hidden. If you don't believe me, try starting in safe mode.
As Linux becomes easier to use, it is natural that more IT professionals migrate to this system and this results in an improvement of it. Personally, I don't like Ubuntu's package selection, nor its somewhat one-sided policies (compared to Debian), but it must be recognized that this distribution has greatly influenced the improvement of Linux directly and indirectly (other distros have had to struggle to commit). And my impression is that Android has also greatly influenced a more respectful general perception towards this kernel.
@Hugo: Curiously I did not use it in all the vacations and now that I returned to the office it is going smoothly. No lags, no freezes, no BSODs, or anything at all. I was about to change it to Windows 7 but I plan to give it another chance to see if this time it does behave - in addition to formatting I am lazy. xD
The Modern UI interface has never displeased me; on the contrary, I loved it since Microsoft announced in 2011 that Windows 8 would incorporate it, and if I bought the final version it was largely due to it, that over time (I have used Windows 8 since the Developer Preview) has made it simpler than normal Windows.
Of course, the excessive simplicity of some Modern UI programs that are sometimes cut so much for the sake of simplicity that they remain like mere toys with hardly any functions or options is another matter, and I do hate that.
haha I also bought the license and now I have no problem. Of course, I already have it full of crap, but that happens to me with all systems 🙁
Arch is also too calm. IT IS STRESSING THAT EVERYTHING IS SO STABLE ¬¬
Naaa, I have Windows 8 x64 and 0 problems at the moment, the only BSODs were due to the unstable OC (xD) and a wifi board that had very old drivers, which already has its version for W8.
Still I'm faithful to Debian 🙂
Likewise, you have to let a little more time go by, it's like it happens with the new versions of Linux distros, at first they are a headache, with the difference that you have to pay for Win8. I had it installed for a month and a half, and yesterday I put Win7 back on my laptop, since I began to see failures for about four days, mainly network, which suddenly gets very slow, in short, things that with Fedora and Win7 do not happen to me, so I keep it until I improve, six months, with a lot of optimism? Anyway, we'll see.
It is nice to see Linux users who are not fanatic and are not ashamed to wear the Windows logo in the comments. My Windows 8 experience was pretty short as Metro, I mean the start menu, gave me quite a bit of trouble with GTA San Andreas because it seriously interfered with gameplay. Suddenly pointing down to the left in the game showed me the start at a resolution of 800 × 600, which was the game's. There my short experience with Windows after the last one with XP XD. Regards.
"It's nice to see Linux users who are not fanatic." The point is, @Blaire Pascal, that with time and experience I became more practical at this. everything in its place, for me, the place of Linux is the Desktop, and for the Laptop Windows 7, since the power management of the latter is excellent, and it is also a very good OS. On the power issue Win8 is even better, but for now, as I said, it will be "stanby".
Linux, in less than a year, literally "chewed" on my old laptop's battery. A battery for the Acer costs about US $ 160, and to top it off with the import restrictions in Argentina, I can't find it anywhere. Now the same is not going to happen to me with Lenovo, so my beloved Fedora moved to the desktop, where he can consume whatever he wants without harming me. That kind of fanaticism I put aside a long time ago.
regards
Wouldn't it be more sensible to think that the battery in your machine came down faulty?
I bought my laptop (HP dv7-4287cl) in July 2011 and except for a first, short two month stint of using Ubuntu for work while learning to install Arch on a hybrid video system, the rest of the time it came running Arch Linux x86_64 And today the battery has the typical wear and tear from the use I gave it, it is more I can say that it holds very honorably since with the performance tweaks that I made to the system, today I have an average duration of about ~ 3 hours using KDE, 3: 30hs If I use Awesome or dwm, which speaks quite well of the consumption of KDE (really little for such a large and complex system) and the operating system that I have installed since the Ubuntu 11.04 or 11.10 that I used at the time ate the battery at 2:45 am and in Windows I never knew how long it lasted since the first thing I did, OBVIOUSLY, was to make shit the four primary partitions in which the HD was divided [0].
One big fuckoff to Windows and another to HP for their unethical practices.
@m
No, the battery of the Acer with Win7 lasted me almost 4 1/2 hours, with Linux it never reached 3 hours. An hour and a half longer makes a difference (at least for me), and there are also fewer charge cycles, which results in more battery life. The Lenovo I have now even comes with an application with which you can configure that the battery charge is cut to 50% if you use it connected to the current.
Some may tell me "then don't use it with the battery if you're going to plug it in." That is suicide, tell me what happens to you if you receive a power surge without the battery installed.
regards
You should give RAZOR-QT a try, before turning to XFCE.
RAZOR-QT seemed to me to be much faster than KDE and the most interesting thing, it does not let me miss it.
I'm still looking for something I did with KDE that I can't with RAZOR-QT.
Either way, I am not capable enough to use Debian Testing and feel "at home", which is why my main distribution is KUBUNTU.
And which Distro do you recommend with RazorQt or pro RazorQt?
Or which one do you use? I think it was right here that I had seen an article about it.
Yes, now I saw it, it was Slitaz with RazorQt: https://blog.desdelinux.net/slitaz-razorqt-un-nuevo-sabor-de-slitaz-con-qt/
The same happens to me.
I've been with arch and kde for a year and 13 days, and although sometimes I've been on the verge of a heart attack, I've been boring for some time hahaha.
The only "strong" emotion was installing ubuntu for my father-in-law which "tempted" me but only that.
So much boredom that I flashed and rooted my phone. And now what do I do? hahaha
Hmmm, I never get bored, because although my Arch works wonders with KDE 4.9.5, I'm always looking for something to do. For example, for a long time I have wanted to migrate my partition table MS-DOS aka MBR to GUID aka GPT, but since the Arch Wiki explained a method to change the table without partitioning again and without losing data, I did the exact opposite . I backed up my data and completely rewritten my partition table and reinstalled Arch with one such gdisk which brought me a huge toothache when partitioning. And here I am, fine-tuning the final details to start using Archlinux (just because I'm on vacation) for the umpteenth time. Maybe one day I will install Gentoo. For now Arch I do not touch it and I return to the virtual machine, where I have an LFS at half stick hehe. Cheers…
Ditto, 4.9.5 on Arch and it works boringly fine.
We will have to wait for updates from Xorg. Kde's 0 points in general are quite funny 😛
Like I always find a way to break my system, it is a gift. I started using linux for that very reason, so as not to crush my poor brother's installation of windows.
It's funny how you mean your gift, hehehe. So you're like King Midas, but backwards, right? 😉
By the way Elav, nobody can read the censored text of the capture hehehe.
Hahaha .. if you can read it, but it's to give it a touch more drama 😛
Cable ...
Planning the installation of the…
That was what I could read
It will be because where you live they use good printers, because there are places where you have to become an expert in "decrypting" illegible text.
I would swear that what you lacked was Yamilka and PEPE ...
Hahahaha, ñooooo, almost almost Hugo ... How interesting, I did not know that this could become a kind of Enigma hahaha.
So today I decided to erase the old Windows XP from my (apparently immortal) Netbook and install Bodhi Linux on it.
Totally agree. With OpenSuse in Tumbleweed I am delighted by the stability and good update. It works so well and smooth that it is boring. Although I think it's better this way… 😉
Well, I get on the bandwagon, the same thing happens to me with Arch + KDE, it's so stable and it works so well that I find it boring, xd ... Luckily we have virtual machines for those of us who suffer from dystroitis jeeje ...
Try to install the latest ATI drivers on a Gentoo (in my case Sabayon) with kernel> 3.4 which will take away your boredom 😛
Off topic: Do we already have a forum without spam? I just logged in and the anti-spam test message no longer appears ...
I love instability in its proper measure ...
For my part, I went back to arch and I'm coming back to stay I think I miss a lot of things and xfce I don't change it for anything, greetings Ariki
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Like most of you, I find myself in the same situation. I have Arch with Gnome Shell and everything is fancy and another PC but with XFCE. The truth is that I miss having some problems a bit. I just found an old fret (PC PIII) and I'm going to experiment with Arch and E17 and I'll tell you what happens.
I don't understand people who don't want their system to be stable because they get bored. There are no things to investigate and try to entertain yourself and learn new things. For example you can install a Linux From Scratch as I am doing. So sure you don't get bored. 🙂
I am in a radically opposite situation, I am returning to Linux on a regular basis (I have always had a distro but because of the games I almost always started Windows) and now on two of my three computers I have Linux, one as a server and by commands (Ubuntu Server 12.04) to which I still have a lot to do and another desktop for the desktop computer (Mint 14 Cinnamon), and in this I find the ideal family (Debian and derivatives) but not a desktop environment that fills me like what back to Gnome 2.2x years ago.
By the way, I post now from Windows 7, but is that taking into account that the license came in the laptop and that it suits me to touch both sides of the software…. Later we will see if I keep it, although for work I need to improve my skills with certain Microsoft programs.
Or "certain Microsoft programs" ??? I did not know that side of Microsoft XD. It's a lie, it happens to all of us that at some point in our lives we have to use Windows software like Autocad, CorelDraw or Photoshop for whatever.
Yes, in this case I mean the Office suite, so it is. I don't use anything by design, just my dear Gimp, both on Linux and Windows.
Hehe, if it's true, the Microsoft Office. I completely forgot about it.
Linux is very boring, with Windows I was always analyzing with Panda Online, Malwarebytes, spybot, spyware I don't know what ... and when I found something you were already entertained for a while. Then defragmenting, passing the TuneUP ...
Yes, it was adventurous.
Hahahahaha xD
[Best Windows Trolling Ever, 1st Place !!! ]
I've already been with my dear Arch and XFCE 4.10 for a few months, now I put Compiz (by the way, you can't put a different background on each desktop either), conky, and cairo-dock (without overusing effects so much I just use it as an application launcher dock), with all this and my dear p4 without HT, I have an optimal system without mishaps, and nice to the eye, now I am comfortable programming a modest inventory of movable property with django. Regards.
hahahaha, by the way I wanted to comment that what you say Rubén made me laugh… and if it was an odyssey tracking things in winbugs.
By the way the other day I got bored (elementary beta is quite stable) and installed e17 on ubuntu. The truth is that it is very nice, fast and has great effects but it is unstable. We will have to wait a little longer, because it seems like a great environment. It also used 44 MB of ram with the window manager, panel and file browser 😀
I am also in the same. I have Debian Testing with Gnome-shell and it has done boringly well. Greetings from Colombia.
Wenas ..
To tell the truth..we are all (putting everyone in the same bag) waiting for something to happen that complicates our lives a little bit .. ..and which is being talked about in all the communities .. ..Linux is winning us exceedingly with its incredible stability ..
OT: While I am having fun configuring my recently installed ArchLinux + Openbox + PyTyle ... thanks to which I don't have to use my mouse anymore .. 😀
And although there are already a few posts on the web about these communities... I could gladly write one for DesdeLinux about my process..
There are always things to learn .. ..the hard part is knowing where you want to start .. 😉
From already thank you very much..
Scalibur ..
Now I'm focused on seeing how I can fully understand a Linux distro and stop jumping from one to another because before it happened to me that I was going to another distro, perhaps for a more beautiful theme than that one, etc, etc and now I opted by Debian and now I'm walking around changing desktops and learning a bit how to do it by hand and above all to obtain and enjoy the stability of said distro.
In the meantime, we can always keep busy in the open source world with so many alternatives.
Regards!
The answer is simple: Arch ...
Blair, did you switch to arch yet?
Yep. I already changed. Now I have only two Linux on my 2 main partitions, Arch and Fedora. And an extra partition for testing.
Arch !!
In my case I plan to make waves, I am going to move from Ubuntu to Manjaro ... let's see what happens 🙂
In good time then!… I have been learning with Arch for a few months and I totally fell in love. 🙂
I have Mandriva 2010 and it is going great, zero problems !! by the way I look forward to the next version of Mandriva (OpenMandriva) 2013
Well ... for me, 2012 was a year of just trying and trying and trying and with no distro it fit, when I thought I was staying in one I gave myself to try another, out of simple curiosity and some I took them out right away and others I tried them for a few days, but I think that now starting in 2013 if I "fell in love" with Netrunner, it is as if they had read my mind and designed it to my liking and for my laptop.
God… that same thing happened to me with Manjaro… I am so comfortable that it becomes desperately boring; Luckily I'm in exam time now, if not ...
I've been in Arch for a long time, I left Debian because I got bored xD First with Xfce, now with a nice Openbox. What to say, I no longer find anything interesting to do. I have thought about trying certain distros, maybe some BSD, but coincidentally I have no time now.
I also think that the Linuxera atmosphere has been very calm ... well ...
In full adventure and learning so it is not wasted time xD
It is true I am the same since as I was bored I tried to put KDE on my debian now I have both LXDE and KDE, but once everything was great I got bored and I started to read some pdf about computer security.
Hehehehejhehehe, the same thing happens to me with debian testing, it was so bored that I decided to install debian sid on a virtual machine, just to see how unstable it is.
You should get out of the house.
Ha! How easy you see it, but from my eyes everything is different. 🙂
A few days ago I had my first problem of the year in a little machine that I rescued (celeron 1100) with Slitaz, when I had it cooked enough, I started to shrink the Home partition to make room for the Swap (I forgot!), damn GParted, everything ended badly, I couldn't mount the partition, in ten minutes I found the solution, a simple mk2fs -S / dev / hda2 and holy remedy, the fun lasted a bit, to read a little about ext / 2/3/4 it's been said. By the way in the main machine, with Chakra and Ubuntu I get bored like a mushroom 🙂
Che we could take advantage of the calm to attract not so advanced users, right? The stability of linux allows me to show others more easily how good, simple and practical it is to use linux. If not, you would have serious trouble doing this. Yesterday I introduced him to one more friend. Another and we continue counting.
It is what we have always tried, although sometimes we have deviated from the goal 😀
I'm in Manjaro, derived from Arch, and the truth is that I have 0 problems.
The answer to why you have been bored with testing for two months can be found in http://bugs.debian.org/release-critical/
Also remember that testing has been frozen for some time with the intention of going stable in February. That's why you have almost no updates and you get bored. I recommend Sid, that the truth, to be Unstable it is more stable than Testing and sometimes than Stable itself, but it also has its little things to keep you entertained. Although good, that's a matter of taste.
Also as a result of this boring post, I remember (and I look in my history, that my memory is not that good) when in July of last year I collided with Debian's multi-architecture support, that you told me on Twitter: «Debian Sid? No wonder those things happen to you. My suggestion: Go back to Testing. » Hahaha. Now I suggest to you: «Are you looking for action? Upgrade Sid !!! »
If I haven't switched to Sid it's because of the repositories issue (something you know well how it works in Cuba), but trust me, I've always been tempted to use it. In fact, I did it once, but couldn't keep up with the internet's direct update rate.
Last night I decided to update with sid and going back to testing ………………… until sid is almost stable !!!!!!! only 3 packages with bugs-RC and 5 that depend on them. 8 packages that do not encourage me to update ………… ..DE 150
I pass it the same on my Kubuntu 12.04, I have been in that distro since 11.10 and it already remains as the official OS of my machine, zero problems for many months and a marvel of functionality and performance in my coffee maker, you can see that the guys KDE and Bluesystems have taken it seriously
But maybe one of these days I will cheer up and try Sabayon, a pending subject for a long time and that until now I have not had the time to try
I'm not bored I'm programming with GtK 3.6 and Vala.
I help out on the Gtk 3.6 and Vala forums with pieces of GUI code, if anyone needs help.
I am in the LibreOffice group. But I am painted. I asked for a tutorial to know how to use the
VCL libraries. But the LibreOffice ones don't have a tutorial, I want to improve the look of LibreOffice. I'm going to see if I can get something from the VCL website for GNU / LINUX.
What motivates is trying to see how to improve some aspects or details of some programs in GNU / LINUX. To go further and try to win a small fee from Microsoft on desktop PCs.
How good 😀
By the way as I understand the apache ones plan to change the appearance of OpenOffice, maybe you could communicate with them.
Well, the truth is I don't know if it's boring not having to touch anything, but I don't miss it, I have Debian testing and Arch, and in Arch everything is very calm
The laptop's graphics are already difficult to handle to have to be aware of it
So am I too, my testing + kde is so stable that I had no choice but to start programming, arg!
My perfect excuse has always been as soon as I finish with this little problem I program !! I'm screwed with debian.
The truth is, you couldn't have said it, in Gentoo out there when you want to install something or other, you run into some problems, but nothing that can't be solved, then I haven't experienced any kind of disaster for a long time: O
elav you have brought the "evil eye" now there is a bug in the kernel that the PCs are unusable and the monitors go black and white.
Hahahahaha .. to entertain yourself then ..
do not get bored so much, put your hand to everything that is from root down and that's it.
life is short, time flies.
do not waste valuable time in trifles, when it is necessary to solve something serious yes, dedicate time to what is important
Can you imagine yourself at 80? Will they continue to be bored and fiddling with windows, icons or desktop environments ????
council: Carpe diem
Ahhhh, I just want to add: How nice it is when you find the distro of your life and it meets the necessary conditions to be used by uni and to their satisfaction, in my case it was 2, Fedora and Arch, but Arch ... it really hooked me, I remember when I was thinking of the ideal operating system for me; I didn't think it would come true ...
More than a year using CentOS, and the truth…. I get bored that there is nothing to fix, so from time to time, I entertain myself with virtual ones hehe
The question is, what do we want the operating system for? as a means or an end?
All stable and "calm waters" because the development teams are consolidating in specific things, oriented to the web and device integration.
Hey…. since everyone is with nothing to do, haaa ... Really, help me.
I had to enter my other album with W $ to edit a 1080 short film at the al adobre premiere.
I have used ubuntu, u studio, mint, fedora and now arch, and the truth is that in all the aforementioned distros no editing program stops me even 10 minutes before exiting and disappearing.
It's the evil of linux, not having a worthwhile editor.
Does any of you know in which distro kdenlive, open, etc. can work for me, without crashing?
They would really help me a lot.
The thing is like that, I enter here to fiddle and browse and when everything works well we get bored that it works well, this is the human being, what else is left xD, we will always have to virtualize and go back to tinkering from the window
Debian testing + KDE4. Like silk.
In another partition, any other distro with DE or WM test (Opensuse, Fedora, Ubuntu, Arch + Openbox, fluxbox, Mate, LXDE, I don't know!)
Since razor I am perfect, I have tried them all and this one has made me fall in love
I am looking for a rock a stable distro and a desktop in the same way.
I have installed lubuntu the truth is that I get bored that nothing happens, I think linux is the best there is, I have denied a lot with windows vista I have installed it like six times, it always brought me a problem I am very happy with linux